in demonstrations or in germany? or in the u.k., in madrid, in ukraine? >> charlie: because of the factions. >> it happens everywhere. unfortunately, -- i say unfortunately because this is not something we would like to see but they happen. if you resort to violence, then such unwanted consequences occur. who is it that resorts to violence? it's not the police. those who resort to violence are, unfortunately, the people who are in the square who believe in the games the illegal organizations play. and when they attack the police throwing stones or using molotov cocktails, then the police react to it. these people, as you may have noticed, are not people who died as a result of use of weapons because the police -- our police would not use weapons. it would be a last resort. they would be patient. water canons, for example, or other ways, tear gas. our police do not use weapons to kill people. we have to be very sensitive to these issues. we never said no to protests. people can protest, but we don't agree on vandalism, we don't agree on demonstrations whic